Reisebericht von Marko Doboš zum Naturformen-Eintrag S. marmoreum ssp. marmoreum (dinaricum) from Mt. Velebit
S. marmoreum ssp. marmoreum, Mt. Velebit, CRO
Dear friends,
I just came back from 10 days hiking on Mt. Velebit (Croatia). Velebit is the longest Croatian mountain (145km) and it was my long time wish to make this hike. It stretches just near the coast, so the weather was sometimes really hot, but generally unpredictable just like in most high mountains.
Most part of Velebit is protected as nature park (Park prirode Velebit) and 2 national parks (NP Sjeverni Velebit and NP Paklenica).
On my trip I found many S.marmoreum subsp. marmoreum. Mountain is also reported habitat of J. globifera ssp. hirta and S. montanum, but I found none of the mentioned species. There is only 1 reported finding of S.montanum, and I'm sure it's a mistake. Unfortunately I had no time to visit this place, but it's on my list of priority.
S. marmoreum grows along the mountain, although I didn't recorded it in southern part, although there were favorable habitats and historical data. Maybe they are just hiding or could be extinct because of many mountaineers visting this area.
If you're gonna visit this area, please be careful because water supply on mountain is very limited, weather is unpredictable, there are venomous snakes (Vipera ammodytes is the most dangerous snake in Europe), bears, wolfs (not treat to humans), and part of the mountain is still under minefields so you should inform well first. I hope this above won't demotivate you :)
Velebit is really amazing mountain!! I will post more pics on FB
Enjoy the photos!
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Comments
Antwort von jezour am 09.08.2015
Dear Marko,
thank you for the report from Velebit mountains. You took pretty beautiful photos. I mention these plants as S. marmoreum var. dinaricum, they are really different from other S. marmoreum. Also their cultivation is more problematic, because they want drought (as you mention in the report).
Regards,
jezour
Lieber Marko,
vielen Dank für den Reisebericht aus dem Gebirge Velebit. Du hast wirklich wunderschöne Bilder gemacht. Die Pflanzen erwähne ich wie S. marmoreum var. dinaricum, sie sind wirklich unterschiedlich als andere S. marmoreum. Die Anbau dieser Pflanzen ist problematischer, denn die Pflanzen erfordern Trockenheit - das hast du im Text auch erwähnt.
LG,
jezour
Antwort von Marko Dobos am 09.08.2015
I'm glad you like my report.
I had no special problems with cultivation of S.marmoreum where I live.
Antwort von jezour am 09.08.2015
Dear Marko,
I have problems with cultivation (Pilsen, Czech Republic) of S. marmoreum var. dinaricum only during wet periods. If the plants are longer in the wet soil, they rot quite quickly.
Regards,
jezour
Lieber Marko,
ich habe die Probleme mit dem Anbau (Pilsen, Tschechien) von S. marmoreum var. dinaricum nur während den feuchten Perioden. Wenn diese Pflanzen sich länger in der feuchten Erde befinden, sie faulen ganz schnell.
LG,
jezour
Antwort von Sempernicki am 10.08.2015
Hallo, dear Marko,
thank you for your wonderful pictures and the text. The plants are beautiful.
Also thank you, dear jezour, for your answer.
I'd like to take the pictures into our Naturformen-Lexikon. Marco, do you agree to the addition dinaricum?
(Bei Marko habe ich mich für die Bilder und den Text bedankt, bei jezour für die Antwort. Marko habe ich gefragt, ob er mit der Hinzufügung dinaricum einverstanden ist, wenn ich die Bilder ins Naturformen-Lexikon übertrage.)
LG
Sempernicki
Antwort von Marko Dobos am 12.08.2015
Jezour,
in longer period of wet conditions, I've noticed S.calcaruem rots more easily, but never actually had problems with S. marmoreum. Also, S.montanum doesn't like our summers.
At one point I've lost many of S.arachnoidem and it should be 'easy' species.
For me the key is is constant experimenting, having more than 1 pot of each specimen and of course exchanging plants when ever it's possible :)
Sempernicki,
I'm glad you like my photos. Of course, you can add f. dinaricum in Lexicon.
Here is another habitat photo from Velebit,
More habitat photos from other sites coming soon. Have a nice day
:)
Antwort von jezour am 12.08.2015
Dear Marko,
thank you for next photos from Velebit.
During wet periods I have problems with S. marmoreum var. dinaricum from Orjen, MNE, if the plants are outside during wet periods. Maybe is there even drier in Orjen than in Velebit. I did not tested S. marmoreum var. dinaricum from Biokovo, maybe they would react differently.
The cultivation of houseleeks depends also on the location and weather conditions of the location, as you confirmed.
Regards,
jezour
Lieber Marko,
vielen Dank für die nächsten Bilder aus dem Gebirge Velebit.
Während der feuchten Perioden ich habe Probleme mit dem Anbau von S. marmoreum var. dinaricum aus dem Gebirge Orjen, MNE, wenn sie sich draußen befinden. Vielleicht ist noch trockener im Gebirge Orjen als im Gebirge Velebit. Ich habe die Pflanzen von S. marmoreum var. dinaricum aus dem Gebirge Biokovo draußen nicht geprüft, vielleicht würden diese Pflanzen anders reagieren.
Der Anbau der Hauswurz ist auch von dem Ort und von dem Wetterbedingungen am Ort abhängig, wie du es bestätigt hast.
LG,
jezour